Synonymes for S. carpathicum
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Synonymes for S. carpathicum
Valid name:
S. montanum subsp. carpaticum (Wettst. ex Prodan) A. Berger (1930)
Synonymes:
S. carpathicum Wettst. ex Prodán (1923)
S. montanum subsp. eumontanum var. carpathicum (Wettst.) Domin
S. montanum subsp. montanum auct. non L.
S. montanum subsp. carpaticum (Wettst. ex Prodan) A. Berger (1930)
Synonymes:
S. carpathicum Wettst. ex Prodán (1923)
S. montanum subsp. eumontanum var. carpathicum (Wettst.) Domin
S. montanum subsp. montanum auct. non L.
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Re: Synonymes for S. carpathicum
Currently, in my opinion, valid as Sempervivum carpathicum with two subspecies:
S. c. ssp. carpathicum
S. c. ssp. heterophyllum
References:
http://www.landesmuseum.at/pdf_frei_remote/PHY_38_2_0323-0336.pdf
http://www.landesmuseum.at/pdf_frei_remote/PHY_42_1_0109-0115.pdf
So no longer a subspecies of S. montanum. Likewise, S. stiriacum is a full valid species, not a subspecies. The reason is that all three are morphologically distinct and genetically isolated from each other. S. stiriacum grows in the region between S. montanum and S. carpathicum. So there is no direct contact between S. montanum and S. carpathicum. Any hybrids between S. stiriacum and the other two would be sterile as S. stiriacum is tetraploid while both others are diploid.
S. c. ssp. carpathicum
S. c. ssp. heterophyllum
References:
http://www.landesmuseum.at/pdf_frei_remote/PHY_38_2_0323-0336.pdf
http://www.landesmuseum.at/pdf_frei_remote/PHY_42_1_0109-0115.pdf
So no longer a subspecies of S. montanum. Likewise, S. stiriacum is a full valid species, not a subspecies. The reason is that all three are morphologically distinct and genetically isolated from each other. S. stiriacum grows in the region between S. montanum and S. carpathicum. So there is no direct contact between S. montanum and S. carpathicum. Any hybrids between S. stiriacum and the other two would be sterile as S. stiriacum is tetraploid while both others are diploid.
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Re: Synonymes for S. carpathicum
There was even one combination later, the combination of D. R. Letz. He published following:
S. wettsteinii subsp. wettsteinii (= S. montanum subsp. carpathicum)
S. wettsteinii subsp. heterophyllum (= S. montanum subsp. heterophyllum)
The names as subspecies are used most often now.
S. wettsteinii subsp. wettsteinii (= S. montanum subsp. carpathicum)
S. wettsteinii subsp. heterophyllum (= S. montanum subsp. heterophyllum)
The names as subspecies are used most often now.
Re: Synonymes for S. carpathicum
OK, thanks! Is this article also online?
I only don't understand why these are still subspecies, as also they are both morphologiocally and ecologically (altitude, type of rock) distinct so clearly separate evolutionary units. I guess this is largely a matter of preference.
I only don't understand why these are still subspecies, as also they are both morphologiocally and ecologically (altitude, type of rock) distinct so clearly separate evolutionary units. I guess this is largely a matter of preference.
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Re: Synonymes for S. carpathicum
Illustator,
it is a bit longer article - it is the dissertaion of D. R. Letz.
Both plants are morphologically and ecologically distinct from the other subspecies of S. montanum. But both plants also have the main characters of S. montanum - for example altitude by the most subspecies, the nice smell of the plants, the special drought resistance, the shape of the leaves, the always grow on acid rock, the blooms...
it is a bit longer article - it is the dissertaion of D. R. Letz.
Both plants are morphologically and ecologically distinct from the other subspecies of S. montanum. But both plants also have the main characters of S. montanum - for example altitude by the most subspecies, the nice smell of the plants, the special drought resistance, the shape of the leaves, the always grow on acid rock, the blooms...
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