Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

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Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by Marko.D on Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:31 pm

I saw this species in a book Sedum- cultivated stonecrops by Ray Stephenson. I didn't find much information
on internet.
Synonyms:
Orostachys sikokiana
Cotyledon sikokiana
Sedum sikokianum
Sedum leveilleanum


It looks similar to Orostachys chanetii that is also very rare and very beautiful. It's annual plant.

Here is a picture from a book:


And a link to only picture I've found on internet:
http://bio-image.net/main.php?smenu=category&ca=5&taxa_ca_id=7-2304

Does anyone has more information about this species?

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Re: Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by Marko.D on Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:34 pm

I had more luck with googling Korean word for this plant. A lot of habitat photos. I don't know are they in culture at all.
Word is: 난쟁이바위솔

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Re: Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by I'm the 1 on Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:25 am

Marko, it's the very first time I hear about this plant.

The name METEROSTACHYS reminds me a lot of meterological stuff or meteor catastrophy! Hm, how inventive some people are, making up plant names!

The plant itself buit reminds me a lot of Sinocassula yunnanensis, I plant I used to have and that is supposed to be frost hardy. It did not survived winter outside.

Unfortunately I do not have any information to help you with. But knowing you I know you are stubborn and won't give up till you find some.

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Re: Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by cohan on Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:11 am

cool!

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Re: Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by cohan on Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:13 am

i think this may have answered a puzzle of mine--i found a photo of a plant in flower on an asian site several years ago, and had no idea what it was--it looks like something similar to these...

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Re: Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by Marko.D on Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:46 pm

Well, we could start new topic about Orostachys classification and Asian pages Smile
It seems like one big mess.

Have you ever saw this
http://www.wildgreen.co.kr/plant/210227 ? ( http://blog.paran.com/blog/detail/postBoard.kth?pmcId=dohwayoon&blogDataId=12222390&hrefMark= )

...or this?
http://www.google.hr/images?um=1&hl=hr&client=firefox&rls=com.yahoo%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1512&bih=745&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=%EC%A0%95%EC%84%A0%EB%B0%94%EC%9C%84%EC%86%94&btnG=Tra%C5%BEi&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

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Re: Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by Marko.D on Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:55 pm

There is a great article about phylogeny of Orostachys beased on DNA research:

http://gardens.narod.ru/goncharova1.pdf

You can see on page 4 that plants that we know today as genus
Orostachys aren't monophyletic.
Plants i like to call ''soft'' Orostachys are geneticly different than ''hard'' species.

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Re: Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by Marko.D on Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:15 am

Renata wrote:
The plant itself buit reminds me a lot of Sinocassula yunnanensis, I plant I used to have and that is supposed to be frost hardy. It did not survived winter outside.

Genera Orostachys and Sinnocrassula are closely related. Genetic research will show how many Orostachys should be in Sinocrassula and the other way around.

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Post by cohan on Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:07 am

i looked at some of the asian pages the other day, many beautiful plants, but since i speak no korean , just pictures...i used google translate on one page, it gave me something like cryptic poetry...lol

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Re: Orostachys sikokiana = Meterostachys sikokianus

Post by Marko.D on Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:18 pm

hahah
We need someone on this forum who knows korean and japanese.
It would be much easier...

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