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Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:42 pm

For this genus there are no many cultivars as for Sempervivum.
For most of them we don't know the breeder or the year of introduction.
There is no complete list of known cultivars...


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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:47 pm

Orostachys boehmeri 'Keiko'
is maybe the most popular Orostachys cultivar. It is marked as cultivar but i can't find the origin or the information
is it a cultivar at all or just a natural form of the species.
I also don't know what makes him different from regular O. boehmeri.

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:54 pm

Orostachys 'NYBG'
I saw this species at http://www.succulents.jp/photolist_orostachys.html for the first time. It looks like O.fimbriata.
NYBG= New York Botanical Garden
It is marked as cultivar but i rather think it is a form of O. fimbriata that is cultivated in NY Botanical garden. I will contact the gardens for more info.

you can buy this plants in Japan: http://www.agreeable.jp/eshopdo/refer/vidSUOR00000901.html
or in Canada: http://www.wrightmanalpines.com/details.asp?PRODUCT_ID=O041

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:08 pm

Orostachys malacophylla ssp.iwarenge 'FUJI'
Orostachys malacophylla v. iwarenge f.variegata
Orostachys iwarenge cv. Luteomedius


3 unusual plants i found on japanese page: http://plaza.rakuten.co.jp/chibihanapi/diary/201005080000/


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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:12 pm

Orostachys japonicum f.variegata

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/deshixtu_tamaxtuti/24811209.html
http://haworthia.jp/aerialgarden/orostachys%20pages/tumerengenishiki.htm


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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:23 pm

Orostachys iwarenge 'Hodo'

http://succulentplantinfo.blogspot.com/2010/09/orostachys-iwarenge.html
http://www.pepilacdesjoncs.com/cms/catalogue/details/438/3/vivaces/orostachys-iwarengo-%27hodo%27
http://www.pepiniere-bouetservat.com/photosite/HTLM/Orostachys%20iwarenge%20%20.htm

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:05 pm

Orostachys japonica 'Yatsugashira'

I saw this plant for the first time in Ray Stephenson's: Sedum-cultivated stonecrops book (page 176). It was marked as Sedum 'Yatsugashira'.

I found photo on japanese page: http://www.cactusosada.com/index/2010/07/%E3%83%A4%E3%83%84%E3%82%AC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A9-orostachys-japonica-yatsugashira-%E3%81%AE%E5%90%8D%E5%89%8D%E3%81%A7%E5%B0%8E%E5%85%A5%E3%81%97%E3%81%9F%E3%82%82%E3%81%AE---%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E5%8E%9F%E7%94%A3%E5%B0%8F%E3%81%95%E3%81%8F%E3%81%A6%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8F%E3%81%84.html
(I know, plants in a picture below are to die for)
we could interpret text below the photo as author thinks that 'Yatsugashira' could be just a form of Orostachys japonica f. polycephala,
although Google translator tells me ''Personally, I think O.japonica f. polycephala good place to have tea...''

I also found some info that say that name yatsugashira is japanese word for Orostachys erubescens var. polycephalus.
http://wildflowersshimane.web.fc2.com/Plates/Orostachys_erubescens_var._polycephalus.htm
http://www.florestadesuculentas.com.br/blog/2010/05/orostachys-erubescens/


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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:14 pm

Orostachys malacophylla var. iwarenge 'Kinboshi', crested

I've found this on the same blog where i found picture of 'Yatsugashira': http://www.cactusosada.com/index/cat4326986/


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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:30 pm

Orostachys 'Sui Cing’ - (Refections from water drop)
Orostachys ‘Chien to hua’ - (Thousands of flowers)
Orostachys ‘Aoi Kihujim’ - (Green lady)
Orostachys ‘Bi jim’ - (Beautiful lady)
Orostachys ‘Hai iro’ - (Grey)
Orostachys ‘Momoko’ - (Peach girl)

I found this list here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/542612/

I couldn't find info about any of these cultivars. I also don't know are those plants in a private collection of this lady.
Is someone maybe a member of this forum or has an idea how to contact this person who made the list?

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:35 pm

Orostachys 'Sui Sing'

Saw it only in Sedum society exchange list: www.cactus-mall.com/sedum/2011ExP.doc

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:52 pm

Orostachys japonicum sp.'Tsushima'

Tsushima is probably locality data. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsushima_Island

http://www.succulents.jp/photolist_orostachys.html
http://opuntia.houkou-onchi.com/benkei/Orostachys/japonicaTmenu.htm

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Post by Marko.D on Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:59 pm

Orostachys malacophylla var.malacophylla 'Genkai'

Genkai is also probably locality data.

http://www.succulents.jp/photolist_orostachys.html
http://tyurio.jp/sub1118.html

Could this be that this plants were used to called Orostachys genkaiensis Ohwi (1956) ?

http://haworthia.jp/aerialgarden/orostachys%20pages/genkai.htm (other name but probably the same plant?)

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Post by Marko.D on Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:05 am

Orostachys iwarenge 'Houou'

http://haworthia.jp/aerialgarden/orostachys%20pages/houou.htm

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Post by Marko.D on Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:12 am

Orostachys iwarenge f. variegata "Howow"

http://homepage.ttu.edu.tw/mhlee/www/catalog/kalanchoe.htm

The same plant as 'Houou'?

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Post by Marko.D on Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:56 pm

Ed Skrocki hybrid

Mr. Ed Skrocki was a famous plant collector and breeder. He made many known Sempervivums but also made some Orostacyhs cultivars. Unfortunately mr. Skrocki died this year.

Does anyone have info about his Orostachys cultivars?

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Post by Marko.D on Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:17 pm

Orostachys 'Peach Perfect'

Mr. Jack Broxholme ( http://www.cavendishperennials.com/) from Canada got unnamed seedling from mr. Ed Skrocki.
He named it 'Peach Perfect'.
It could be true species but it's more likely it was one of countless unnamed hybrids from mr.Skrocki.

Unfortunately mr. Broxholme lost his plants one winter but they can be still found in other nurseries and private collections.

http://www.rockwallgardens.com/

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:49 pm

About a week ago i bought this O. spinosa from Mr. Hrvoje Bešlić (who has largest cactus and succulent collection in Croatia).

It looks like it's crested. All of the plants that Mr.Bešlić was selling had this irregular center so I think that this mutation could be stable.
We'll see on the offsets.



and here is a closer picture:

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by I'm the 1 on Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:58 pm

Vrijedi onih 55 kuna!

There's definitely something strange (UNUSUAL!) going on in the middle of the plant!

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Post by cohan on Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:49 pm

Is this really a crest? I think this is a certain stage in this plant's growing cycle where it is switching to a different growth--because of the season or oncoming flowering, I forget, but I'm pretty sure i have seen this in pictures before...

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:50 am

I think this is a crest. My other plants have regular inner leafs. I also saw something similar on pics but that can also mean that crested form
is not so uncommon in cultivation.
One of the possibilities is that this plant was forced (with fertilizer or even hormones) to grow faster, so center is not symmetric.

I have one other plant labeled as O.spinosa f cristata / var. cristatum.This plant looks normal, but flowers should be crested.

I honestly hope this is a permanent mutation for crested rosette Smile

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Post by I'm the 1 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:29 am

Variagated Orostachys:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58821092@N05/5911892956/

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:34 pm

One year later, mystery is solved: My plant is crested Smile
The only question remains is if this mutation is stable and I could tell that when the offsets grow up.


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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:14 pm

And I forgot to say that I became an owner of this tiny jewel called
Orostachys 'Yatsugashira'. This is one of my favorite plants.
(sorry for bad photo quality)



If you google pictures for name 'Yatsugashira' you will get pics of a bird
Upupa epops (Eng:hoopoe, Croatian:pupavac), but you will also get pics of taro root.

Taro is name for edible corms and tubers of several plants in the family Araceae (mostly species Colocasia esculenta). This Orostachys cultivar got it's name because of the resemblance with taro root. I think it's because of the fatty look, but I was told it's because of the great power of multiplication.

Japanese name is 八つ頭 and if you try to translate it with Google translator in English (or Croatian as well) it means eight head.

Other name is ヤツガシラ and it means hoopoe (the bird...)

It all seems a bit confusing...it's because it is. I hope someone can explain this better. I suspect that Japanese words for taro root and for hoopoe bird are the same and can be written with (at least) 2 Japanese alphabets that makes confusion for us..for me.

Anyway, regardless the origin of it's name this plant seems cultivar of O.japonica and sometimes is even called Orostachys japonica 'Yatsugashira'.
As I've said in previous posts there is a form of this species called O. japonica f. polcephala (O.polycephala) that looks very similar. I've never seen this form in real life but to me it looks bigger than 'Yatsugashira'.

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:22 pm

This strange form is a result of winter growth and elongation.
I bought this plant in a bad shape (there was only 1 central rosette). It seems it overwintered indoors in garden centre, I felt sorry and bought this plant.I was very surprised at the same time because I found Orostachys spinosa in Croatia, although I already had this species (bought abroad of course)
Plant recovered and rewarded me with this great scene Smile



I forgot to put some scale :( . You have to trust me that this is a large plant..gigantic Very Happy

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Re: Cultivars, hybrids, unusual forms (cristate, monstruose, variegated plants)

Post by Marko.D on Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:01 pm

Orostachys malacophylla Bronze hybrid.

In my opinion there is more than just O.malacophylla in this hybrid (if it is a hybrid at all).
Similar species that are rarely cultivated like O. maximowiczii and O.paradoxa show this vivid
colorations and are more monocarpic than O.malacophylla.



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