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Vysoké Tatry

Post by I'm the 1 on Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:40 am

This is Slovak and Chech name for High Tatras. It is a mountain range on the border between Slovakia and Poland.


German: Hohe Tatra
English: High Tatras or High Tatra
Slovak and Czech: Vysoké Tatry
Polish: Tatry Wysokie
Slovene: Visoke Tatre

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by I'm the 1 on Fri May 08, 2009 7:45 am

Sempervivum montanum subsp. carpathicum in Visoke Tatry:

http://rastliny.nahuby.sk/obrazok_detail.php?obrazok_id=96962

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by jezour on Fri May 08, 2009 6:37 pm

My fried sent me some photos of Sempervivum montanum subsp. carpathicum in Vysoké Tatry in Slowakia. It is from Jahňačí štít. I am sorry, text is only in Czech and Slowak.

Link: http://kaktusyforum.ic.cz/weblog_entry.php?e=111

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by Chromaphyo on Fri May 08, 2009 7:44 pm

Very interesting.
The name is now S. wettsteinii

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Post by cohan on Sat May 09, 2009 7:01 am

jezour wrote:My fried sent me some photos of Sempervivum montanum subsp. carpathicum in Vysoké Tatry in Slowakia. It is from Jahňačí štít. I am sorry, text is only in Czech and Slowak.

Link: http://kaktusyforum.ic.cz/weblog_entry.php?e=111

nice! it is great to see the overviews of where it is growing..very encouraging for me to see the trees, since this is like my place--just take away the rocks...lol this reminds me that i used to grow what i called then Sempervivum soboliferum in a bed that was mostly shady, and it grew very nicely there..

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by jezour on Sat May 09, 2009 8:46 am

I have seen this plants in Nízké Tatry - Nízké Tatry are only over the valley. I have written about it in my blog, also only in Czech, but there are many photos of these plants in the blog. It is set of articles. I have found there Sempervivum montanum subsp. carpathicum and Jovibarba globifera subsp. hirta var. preissiana

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1 - http://kaktusyforum.ic.cz/weblog_entry.php?e=8
2 - http://kaktusyforum.ic.cz/weblog_entry.php?e=9
3 - http://kaktusyforum.ic.cz/weblog_entry.php?e=10
4 - http://kaktusyforum.ic.cz/weblog_entry.php?e=11
5 - http://kaktusyforum.ic.cz/weblog_entry.php?e=12

There are pictures of countryside in the articles. You can introduce the countryside and the mountains.

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by Chromaphyo on Mon May 11, 2009 7:42 pm

Jezour, I don't understand your language but yours pictures are beautiful.
Thanks

I have a S. montanum subsp. carpathicum. Is this plant similar to your wild plants ?


S. montanum carpaticum Kralovany S953A, Slovakia (wettsteinii)

Have you collected plants of your expeditions ?

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Post by jezour on Tue May 12, 2009 6:21 am

Yes, these plats are similar to the wild plants in Nízké Tatry. Do you know more about the habitat? I am asking, because Kraľovany is village in the valley of the river Váh and Orava. And there are more mountains near Kraľovany - Veľká Fatra and Malá Fatra. I have read, that there is Sempervivum montanum in Malá Fatra, but it grows only on granite rocks in the south part of the mountains. I was in Malá Fatra and I did not find them. They do not grow on ridge (there is only Jovibarba globifera subsp. hirta var. preissiana). They must grow somewhere below.

Yes, I collect plants of my expeditions. But I have only two plants from Nízké Tatry (I was there, when I start taking interest about houseleeks). These plants grow good and they are producing tillers.
I am interested houseleeks not for a long time and my collection is small now. But the collection is exploding.

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by Chromaphyo on Tue May 12, 2009 10:55 am

jezour wrote:Do you know more about the habitat? I

Thanks for your response, Jezour.
I don't know about the habitat. I have this plant from Renata Kosmac.

In the wild, what is the size of plants? My plants are very little ! (1 - 1,5 cm)

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by jezour on Tue May 12, 2009 12:37 pm

The most frequent size is from 3 cm to 5 cm, the biggest plants have 6,5 cm on average.

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by Chromaphyo on Wed May 13, 2009 4:22 pm

Thanks, Jezour Wink

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by cohan on Thu May 14, 2009 5:32 pm

jezour wrote:I have seen this plants in Nízké Tatry - Nízké Tatry are only over the valley. I have written about it in my blog, also only in Czech, but there are many photos of these plants in the blog. It is set of articles. I have found there Sempervivum montanum subsp. carpathicum and Jovibarba globifera subsp. hirta var. preissiana

these are all fantastic, thanks for sharing! i never get tired of seeing pictures from habitat!

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by Chromaphyo on Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:20 pm

Here's one of my Sempervivum favorite, a very small houseleek which flourished since the end of August two years later than the classical S. montanum montanum.
Is this the same species? S. montanum is the earliest species to bloom with S. grandiflorum . The appearance of S. montanum carpaticum is very different because of its small size, more yellowish color and smell almost nonexistent.
S. montanum carpaticum was renamed S. wettsteinii by Letz in 1998. I do not understand why since it was sufficient to elevate carpaticum at species rank.
If someone has the original description, let me know!




S. montanum carpaticum Kralovany S953A Slovakia

Here is another plant that was given to me as S montanum carpaticum and not like the first! The rosettes are much larger, greener and more succulent.
Perhaps this is S. montanum heterophyllum ?


S. montanum carpaticum Jastrabska Skala S 053-A, Slovakia

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by jezour on Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:17 am

I think, that first Sempervivum must be S. montanum heterophyllum. The village Kraľovany lies between the ranges - Veľká Fatra and Malá Fatra. The nearest habitat of S. montanum subsp. carpathicum (wettsteinii) lies in Nízké Tatry and it is about 37 km far.
And the plants from Jastrabská skala are 100% Sempervivum montanum subsp. heterophyllum.

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Re: Vysoké Tatry

Post by I'm the 1 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:50 am

Another photo from habitat:

http://www.nahuby.sk/obrazok_detail.php?obrazok_id=76725

A beautiful shot of dry flowers.

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