S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

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S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

Post by I'm the 1 on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:00 am

Like the name suggest, S. montanum subsp. carpathicum can be found in Carpathians. This mountain range is forming an arc that is roughly 1,500 km long. Carphatians stretch from the Czech Republic in the northwest to Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Serbia,Ukraine and Romania in the east. Tatras on the border of Poland and Slovakia are part of Carpharians.

S. montanum subsp. carpathicum was classified by Wettst. ex Hayek, 1923

The most famous clone of this S. montanum subspecies is Cmiral’s Yellow, a plant that was found growing in the wild by Otokar Cmiral, from former Czechoslovakia.


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Re: S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

Post by I'm the 1 on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:01 am

LocalityCountryElevationField collection numberNotes
Babia goraPolandS 1.670 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Babia goraPolandSE 1.600 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Babia horaSlovakia1.700 mRoman Letz, Slovakia
Babia horaSlovakiaSW 1.700 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Banská ŠtiavnicaSlovakia

Wrong! = S. montanum subsp. heterophyllum
BaranecSlovakiaS 2.000 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Batizovske plesoSlovakiaSE 1.880 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Cervena dolinaSlovakiaSE 1.980 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
ChabenecSlovakia


Cisa Romania
Roman Letz, Slovakia
Daxnerovo sedloSlovakiaE 2.320 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Demönovská Dolina, Mts Nizke Tatry Slovakia
PH255
Dlhe plesoSlovakiaSE 1940 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Dolina Hoskora, Malá Fatra Mts
450 mSmits 4145
DriganSlovakia1.550 mKamil Panik, Slovakia
ĎumbierSlovakia2.000 mRoman Letz, Slovakia
Ďumbier Slovakia2.002 m
close to the peak


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Re: S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

Post by I'm the 1 on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:07 am

LocalityCountryElevationField collection numberNotes
Felska Pleso, Tatra Slovakia
Smits 955
Hincova kotlinaSlovakia1.970 mKamil Panik, Slovakia
Hohe Tatra

Slovakia
Smits 2870 / Otokar Cmiral
Holy vrchSlovakiaS 1.700 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Hrdlo Hornádu

Slovakia537 m
National park Slovenský raj
KlinSlovakiaSE 1.900 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
KoncistaSlovakiaS 1.880 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
KoncistaSlovakiaSW 1.800 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Konské – under Chopek Slovakia1.849 m

Kralova holaSlovakia
Roman Letz, Slovakia
Kráľova skalaSlovakia1.650 mRoman Letz, Slovakia
Kráľova skala Slovakia1.680 m

Krivan Slovakia


KrivanSlovakiaS 2.050 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
KrivanSlovakiaS 2.440 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
KrivanSlovakiaS 2.440 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Krivan - PriehybaSlovakiaS 1.955 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Krivansky zlab Slovakia
Martin Miklánek, Slovakiawest slope
Krupévé SedloSlovakia

crossroad on the way to Krupévé Sedlo


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Re: S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

Post by I'm the 1 on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:08 am

LocalityCountryElevationField collection numberNotes
Ladove pleso

SlovakiaS 2.000 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Ladovy hrebenSlovakiaS 2.150 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Mala Studena dolinaSlovakia1.650 mRoman Letz, SlovakiaVysoké Tatry
Male Hincovo plesoSlovakiaE 1.970 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
MalužináSlovakia750 mRoman Letz, SlovakiaNízke Tatry
Maly KrivanSlovakiaSE 2.290 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Maly KrivanSlovakiaSE 2.300 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
MaximilankaSlovakiaS 1.760 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Nizke Tatry - Niedere TatraSlovakia
Ahlm. 10
Ahlmann

Nizke Tatry - Niedere TatraSlovakia


Nos SlovakiaS 2.030 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
OstrvaSlovakiaNW 1.700 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Oterra, Tatra

Slovakia
Smits 419 /
L. Pasztor

Pliesko pod SkokomSlovakiaS 1.690 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Pliesko pod SkokomSlovakiaS 1.690 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Pop IvanUkraine
Roman Letz, Slovakia
Prasiva - Krupova holaSlovakia1.600 mRoman Letz, Slovakia
Prislop nad Vajskovskou dolinou Slovakia
Roman Letz, Slovakia
Ragačské kopceSlovakia




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Re: S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

Post by I'm the 1 on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:08 am

LocalityCountryElevationField collection numberNotes
Sive pleso SlovakiaS 2.000 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Sliezsky domSlovakiaSE 1.700 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
SmrekSlovakiaSE 2.060 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Smutna dolinaSlovakia1.765 mRoman Letz, SlovakiaZápadné Tatry
Strbske a Popradske plesoSlovakia1.500 mRoman Letz, Slovakia
Suchy vrchSlovakiaSW 1.840 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
TrnovecSlovakiaS 910 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Turna, Slovensky Kras Mts 320 mSmits 4152
Vareskove plesoSlovakiaSE 1.900 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Velicke pleso SlovakiaS 1.670 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Velicke plesoSlovakiaSE 1.670 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Veľká hoľa Slovakia1.560 m
SE slope
Velka Studena dolinaSlovakiaSE 1.600 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Velke Hincovo plesoSlovakia1.950 mRoman Letz, Slovakia
Vysne Koprovske sedloSlovakiaE 2.020 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Zámutov-Zamutovske Skaly, Mts Slouské vrchy Slovakia750 mSmits 3136 Slanske Mts
WRONG! = S. montanum subsp. heterophyllum
ZanoagaRomania
Roman Letz, Slovakia
Zelene plesoSlovakiaS 1.720 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Zelene pleso SlovakiaS 1.780 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia
Zelené pleso – Kopské sedlo



Slovakia1.578 m
National park Vysoké Tatry (close the path from / to)
Zelené pleso

Slovakia1.725 m
National park Vysoké Tatry
Ziarske sedloSlovakiaS 1.830 mMartin Miklánek, Slovakia


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Re: S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

Post by jezour on Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:13 pm

Banská Štiavnica is habitat of Sempervivum montanum subsp. heterophyllum. There are more habitats near town Banska Štiavnica (Sitno and so on).

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Post by I'm the 1 on Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:05 pm

So Banska Štiavnica is not correct?
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Post by jezour on Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:13 pm

Banská Štiavniaca is not correct.
Also Zamutovské skaly in Slanské hills - this should be also S. montanum subsp. heterophyllum.
Turna - also is not correct - there are only calcite rock - S. marmoreum subsp. matricum grows there.
There is no habitat of S. montanum in Slovenský ráj (Hrdlo Hornádu).
In Malá Fatra is only one habitat of S. montanum - but S. montanum subsp. heterophyllum - Starý hrad above the river Váh.

Sempervivum montanum subsp. carpathicum grows from from altitude 1550 metres and higher. The rosettes are not so big (to 5 cm in diameter).
In the Nízké Tatry (Low Tatras) are the southest habitats of this species in Slovakia.

Sempervivum montanum subsp. heterophyllum - grow only in Slovakia - in central part of the country. The Semps habitats are only to 1100 metres above sea level. The rosettes are bigger - to 7 cm in diameter.
Banská Štiavnica is the nice town in the central Slovakia. It is located in Štiavnické hills. And there are more habitats of S. montanum subsp. heterophyllum (Sitno, Szabóova rock, Krivín).

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Post by I'm the 1 on Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:48 am

Thank you, Jezour!

I've corrected the mistakes I've made!
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Re: S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

Post by jezour on Tue May 21, 2013 9:43 am

The cultivated plants of S. montanum subsp. carpathicum started to bloom.

Sempervivum montanum subsp. carpathicum - SK, Mengusovská dolina, Žabí potok

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Re: S. montanum subsp. carpathicum - habitats

Post by Marko.D on Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:26 pm

Amazing photo! Thank you jezour

Here is my plant labeled as S.montanum subsp. carpathicum forma neopalidum
 Slovakia, West Tatras, Trnác, 1700m

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Post by jezour on Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:54 am

I am glad, that you like the photo. Did your rosettes bloom? The blooms should be yellow, if it is real of S. montanum subsp. carpathicum f. neopallidum.

I show next photo of blooming S. montanum subsp. carpathicum. My plants from Kráľova skala (Nízké Tatry, Slowakia) bloom every year. About 10 rosettes bloomed this year at the same time. I cultivate these plants outside on my bed for Sempervivums and Jovibarbas.


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Post by Marko.D on Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:50 am

This one didn't bloomed yet, I just got it last year.
Another great photo
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